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Poster: grendelschoice Date: May 8, 2013 5:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH Barton Hall 1977

You'll always get varying opinions on whether Barton is the "best" show of '77 or not. Some still argue it's the best, period, but I agree comparing eras is almost impossible.

What's not impossible is recognizing that even if you don't think 5/8 is the best show of '77 (I don't), you must agree that it at the very least belongs in the conversation for such consideration. '77 is a hard year given how many truly outstanding shows there are to choose from, and even tho' I put 10/29 on the ultimate pedestal, I can easily concede that shows such as 5/8, 3/20, 5/9, 6/9, 9/3, 12/29, and hell, why not even 5/13 all could easily be argued for top honors.

My point being that Barton may not be "best" but it is certainly NOT overrated.

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: May 9, 2013 10:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH Barton Hall 1977


but isn't that the definition of over rated? Nobody is saying it is a bad show, just that it is NOT the greatest piece of music from the 20th century...as many claim. Over rated.

So if you are saying it is one hell of a great GD show - that is not over rating it.

But if you, like many others, claim it to be the single greatest event in R&R history, that would be over rating it - dramatically.

To me which ever GD show is the greatest - would be the single greatest event in R&R history.

I've had a copy of Barton since about 1982, always liked it but never worshipped it...now Harper College on the other hand I did worship back then...as I had a great board of it as well as tehe 1/22/78 show, which I consider to be many levels of magnitude better than 5/8.

But that is all opinion and no mater how many people hold an opinion it is still just an opinion.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: May 9, 2013 12:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH Barton Hall 1977

Maybe we're splitting hairs but my definition of overrated is a show that is in every objective way possible mediocre or worse yet is somehow exalted in terms of--if not BEST--then definitely ONE OF the best...and to my ears, Barton DOES have a reasonable seat at the table for "best of" consideration.

There's a reason beyond availability of the tapes that the show has been talked about so much over the years--things you can point to: the epic DEW, the very silky Scarlet>Fire, the super-funked out Dancin'...and the overall excellence of the show in terms of consistency and well-played set list w/almost no flaws.

It is only overrated in the sense of being "best ever"...and you'd be hard pressed to say ANY show--even my personal all time fave--isn't "overrated" if it's being called THE best out of 2,000+ shows they played.

Any show that comes up again and again (Harpur, 8/27/72, and many others) in "best of" discussions by a vast number of 'heads is likely not overrated.